Scientology Gag Agreements - A Conspiracy For Silence

How many people have signed gag agreements with the church of scientology, Arnie is right it is a conspiracy for silence... and some of these people were only trying to get their OWN money back...

Scientology Gag Agreements - A Conspiracy for Silence

The first principle of a free society is an untrammeled flow of words in an open forum. Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965), U.S. Democratic politician. New York Times (19 Jan. 1962).

An Actual GAG Agreement:

Damien Von Markif, in Australia, sent me this GAG AGREEMENT
What is your take on this?
Does this sound like this is a "church" engaged in "charitable activity"
or a Spiritual ponzi game engaged in a conspiracy to intimidate witnesses into silence by extortionate conduct?

Read more here...

Scientology Gag Agreements - A Conspiracy for Silence

 

It's the super-strict gag order the Church of Scientology doesn't want you to see. Now, we can reveal what the church is willing to do to defend its reputation and keep its secrets in-house.
The full statement from the Church of Scientology:
"This is a breach-of-contract case. As is common with defendants in such cases, Debbie Cook wants to divert attention away from her lack of compliance with the terms she voluntarily agreed to in the contract."
"The Church has asked the court to enforce the plain terms of its contract with the defendants, because the defendants wilfully breached their valid agreements and are likely to do so again.
"The one and only legitimate issue in this case is whether the Baumgartens can take all of the benefits of an agreement, then wilfully disregard the obligations they voluntarily promised to abide by in exchange for the benefits they wanted and received."
Read out Q&A with the Church of Scientology International below:
Q: What was Debbie Cook’s role in the COS?
A: She was a full time staff member of the Sea Organization at the Church of Scientology in Clearwater, Florida.
Q:What is the purpose of asking former members to sign non-disclosure agreements?
A: Non-disclosure and non-disparagement agreements are common amongst institutions in countries around the world. It is good and common practice for companies, government offices, charities or religious organizations such as the Church of Scientology, to implement such agreements.
Q:Are all former members asked to sign these agreements?
A: No. These agreements apply in select cases where contracts are appropriate and of benefit to both parties.
Q: Are members who sign an agreement given a copy for their records?
A: Someone who asks for a copy is provided with a copy.
Q: Why does the church seek financial restitution from former members if they breach the orders?
A: The Church complied with all of its promises. We expect other parties to comply with theirs.
Q: How does the church arrive at these figures?
A: It is detailed in the contract and by the evidence.
Q: The Church is suing Cook for breaching her agreement. What does it hope to gain from that?
A: A court finding requiring the defendants to comply with the terms of their agreement as written.

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/8413647/scientologists-silenced

 

Gerry Armstrong--alt.religion.scientology - Scientology v ...

J. Swift on Tony Ortega's blog lying for dollars - Gerry Talks...

 The church of scientology has been gagging people for decades which is why nothing has been done about this menace on society, everyone's been gagged and the con goes on to defraud other people and then gag them.

That's why I love Gerry Armstrong, he signed a gag order under duress but he never stopped talking. Every single scientologist signed these gag orders under duress and I do understand why they don't want to go there again, but in order to bring down a regime that has ruined and squashed so many people, you have to find a way to be stronger than that.

This made me feel so good...

About The Volunteer Ministers
Whether serving in their communities or on the other side of the world, the motto of the Scientology Volunteer Minister is "Something can be done about it." The program, created in the mid 1970s by L. Ron Hubbard and sponsored by the Church of Scientology International as a religious social service, constitutes one of the world's largest and most visible international independent relief forces.
The Volunteer Minister "helps his fellow man on a volunteer basis by restoring purpose, truth and spiritual values to the lives of others."
A global network of Volunteer Ministers mobilizes in times of manmade and natural disasters, answering the call wherever needed. Collaborating with some 1,000 organizations and agencies, they have utilized their skill and experience in providing physical support and spiritual aid at hundreds of disaster sites.

Read more: http://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/15/05/p5554217/doctors-nurses-and-paramedics-answer-the-call-for-those-in-greatest-nee#ixzz3blP796oH

 

A child under dictatorship...

 

Dutch Undercover Report on Scientology

Rambam - Dutch undercover report on Scientology with subtitles in English.

I like this, because the one thing it shows that does not get the atttention it deserves is scientology's blatent abuse of children. A much used theory in scientology is that 'children' are adults in little bodies. They are not.

Scientology -The Apollo series: Adults in little Bodies.

Scientology uses the word 'thetan' in little bodies. 'Thetan' is the spirit according to scientology principles.

It does not matter what age, you are treated the same.

Hence, when founder L. Ron Hubbard locked children in the bowels of the Apollo, he did not see them as any different to the adults he indoctrinated.

A Childhood in Scientology - Ilse Hruby

 

According to DeCrescenzo, she began volunteering to do church work at age 6 or 7 in Orange County. She says that at age 7, she was part of a Scientology group organized to picket the very civil courthouse where trial of her lawsuit will take place.

She claims the demonstration showed the church’s ability to “go to every length to bring down people who filed lawsuits” against the institution, whose followers include Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

When DeCrescenzo was 12, she was recruited to join the organization’s elite Sea Org, which she said is responsible for overseeing the delivery of the religion worldwide, according to her court papers.

DeCrescenzo alleges she was initially required to work daily from 8:30 a.m. to 10:30 p.m. and that two more hours were later added to her work day.

DeCrescenzo says she remained with Sea Org until 2004, when she was 25. She says she told she could not leave Sea Org and was released from duty only after she pretended to attempt suicide by swallowing bleach.

 

http://mynewsla.com/crime/2015/05/28...-suing-church/

6-year-old Sea Org staff member -...

 

US Government documents:

http://www.exposescientology.com/vis...04_02C1101.pdf

Rev. Carnahan, in the above letter, does not offer any details about the
beneficiary's job title, duties, or work hours (although he repeatedly adds the
title "Reverend" to the beneficiary's name). He does, however, offer
more information in a sworn affidavit:

[The beneficiary] . . . has been a staff member of the [petitioning church] since
March 2000.
. . .
In 1993, [the beneficiary] joined the fraternity of the [Sea Org] and began
working full time for the Church in Canada. He took on a position as the
Community Relations Director responsible for creating a favorable public
relations atmosphere in the neighborhoods surrounding the Church premises.

We interject, here, the observation that the beneficiary was ten years old in
1993. [Redacted] does not offer any details about the duties of the Community
Relations Director, the credentials required for the such a position would be
consistent with the educational schedule of a ten-year-old child.

...

Regarding the beneficiary's age, [Redacted] states that the beneficiary "wanted
to join staff from the time he was seven years old and signed a contract on April
16, 1989 in order to do that." April 16, 1989, was the day after the beneficiary's
sixth birthday. Therefore, his motivation for signing the billion-year [Sea Org]
contract of Employment" (Contract) cannot be that he "wanted to join staff from
the time he was seven years old." [Redacted] states that, despite having
signed the Contract, the beneficiary "was unable to join the Sea Org until he
was ten due to legal restrictions."

...

The petitioner has submitted documentation showing that it allows children
of kindergarten age to sign a billion-year Contract with the Sea Org; we are
not obliged to ignore this information merely because the beneficiary signed his
Contract more than two years before the filing date. Whether the beneficiary
had been a member for a week or for fifty years, the circumstances under which
he first signed the Contract are relevant when considering the nature of the
organization. The two-year requirement does not, in any way, restrict
reasonable inquiry into the underlying nature of the organization.

Counsel maintains that the beneficiary's joining the Sea Org at such a young
age "is excellent evidence of the calling to religious life contemplated by 8
C.F.R. § 204.5(m)(2)." This argument would be persuasive only if six-year-old
children routinely made reliable predictions about their ultimate careers. There
is no evidence that very young children (who are especially impressionable,
particularly when a parent is a church official) sign the Sea Org Contract under
different circumstances than adults, who have given mature reflection to the
nature of a permanent commitment.

=====================================

http://www.exposescientology.com/vis...04_02C1101.pdf

The beneficiary, born in 1978, was only fifteen years old when she
signed a "Contract of Employment" (Contract) with the Sea Org in 1993.

The Contract reads, in its entirety:

I, ______________________DO HEREBY AGREE to enter into employment with
the SEA ORGANIZATION and, being of sound mind, do fully realize and agree to
abide by its purpose which is to get ETHICS IN this PLANET AND UNIVERSE and,
fully and without reservation, subscribe to the discipline, mores and conditions
of this group and pledge to abide by them.

THEREFORE, I CONTRACT MYSELF TO THE [DELETED] FOR THE NEXT BILLION
YEARS.
(As per Flag Order 232)

=====================================

This US Government document is from 2005:

http://www.exposescientology.com/vis...05_03C1101.pdf

In SRC [redacted] the alien signed the contract at the age of fifteen, and
the petitioner submitted a publication entitled "The [Sea Org]: The Religious
Order of the Church of Scientology," which states: "There is no age limit for
joining the [Sea Org] . . . But there are restrictions for signing a declaration or
contract with the local churches. If a person is under the legal age limit of the
country he must get full parental agreement and meet any employment laws of
the land."

=====================================

http://www.exposescientology.com/vis...05_01B6203.pdf

We note that the beneficiary was fifteen years old when she joined
the Sea Org in 1994. By the date of filing in 1999, however, the beneficiary
was twenty years old, an age that does not raise concerns about compliance
with federal, state, and local laws governing child labor (such as the Fair Labor
Standards Act). Such questions would likely arise in instances where the
beneficiary is, as of the filing date, too young to work legally.

=====================================

http://www.exposescientology.com/vis...05_06C1101.pdf

The record contains copies of several certificates, including a "Sea
Organization Contract of Employment," which reads, in part, "I contract myself
to the Sea Organization for the next billion years," signed by the beneficiary
and dated December 15, 1996, when the beneficiary was thirteen years of
age. The beneficiary's "Welcome to the Sea Org" certificate is dated August 9,
1997. Another certificate, "Basic Sea Org Member Hat," is dated November 18,
1997.

=====================================

http://www.exposescientology.com/vis...06_02C1101.pdf

In a supplement to the appeal, the petitioner submits copies of various
church documents. One document, dated February 23, 1994, indicates that the
beneficiary passed the Fitness Board. Another document, dated August 2,
1998, reaffirms this finding of fitness. This indicates that the beneficiary was a
full member of the Sea Org for more than nine years prior to the petition's March
2003 filing date.

The beneficiary was ten years old when he became a full Sea Org member.

 

Scientology's Bournemouth Mission, Poole, Dorset.

Having just spoken to someone who was there at the time this was going on,and spent over three years getting their money back, seems like a good time to bring this back into the lime light.

Scientology in the UK Media

Up: Martin Poulter > Scientology Criticism > UK Media Archive

The Big Story: The S-Files

'The Big Story' ITV, Thursday 28 November 1996, 7:30 pm

Transcribed by John Ritson, john@jritson.demon.co.uk

Title "The S Files" [S as in Scientology Logo]
[Presenter Dermot Murnaghan (DM henceforth) no relation to any other DM] 


"Tonight we're going to expose serious financial crime in one of the
Scientology cult's most successful operations in Britain. 
We show how they cooked the books, made false statements to obtain bank
loans, and changed invoices to fiddle their VAT."
[Extract from "Trust" ad]
"This advert for the Church of Scientology was recently shown on cable
TV. It was a major breakthrough for the cult. The cult persuaded the
Independent Television
Commission that it was a 'proper' religious organisation fit to be
allowed on TV. It also has the right to advertise on the ITV network
itself, giving it direct access to the entire British population, and
the Scientologists hope they'll soon be officially accepted as a
charity. But the inside evidence we have obtained 
raises serious doubts about their new public image. Last year The Big
Story secretly filmed inside the Bournemouth mission.
[shots from that film - smiling recruiter - whimpering trainee]
We showed the wierd psychological techniques they use and how they get 
people to spend thousands of pounds on their books and courses.
The revelations in that programme convinced two former Bournemouth
mission officials that they should come to us with their inside story of
financial scams."

SCAM 1 - Cooking the Books

[Voices saying "Trust"]
"Roger Tuffin left Scientology when he decided to come out as gay and
now lives with his partner John."
[two blokes sorting out washing]
"He joined the Bournemouth Mission when he was just 20 and 
desperately confused about his sexuality"
[1991 -according to an interview in "The Guardian"]
"Roger had worked in a bank so he soon found himself in a key
role in the mission's treasury department - cooking the books"
[shot of bloke putting food under grill]
"Normal accounting practices and financial law went by the board."

RT "Nobody knew where the money came from so receipts were made up to
account for that money. But of course the receipts were being made up
about three years later with fictitional names, fictitional amounts
and courses - and completely bogus receipts."

DM "At the time Roger Kay was the boss - his deputy was Debbie Pine
[Film of them taken inside the mission] Tuffin says they both knew what
was going on, but the cult's international HQ denies this"
Mike Rinder - Director CSI "..a comlete lie. I don't think that there is
an example you can ever find - of somebody in the Church of Scientology
that has done something improper that 
has not been dealt with internally within the Church"

DM "Poole High St. ten days ago. Our secret camera watches the
Scientologists out and about trying to pick up new members"

[shot of street from above]  
[for non-UK readers Poole and Bournemouth form a South Coast
conurbation]Recruiter "...we operate for the benefit the public so it's
up to you"
DM "Scientology is essentially a money-making enterprise. And
they want that money so much that in the Bournemouth mission they were
prepared to employ a woman who admitted she'd been involved in financial 
malpractice in the past"

[woman using PC - pages of HCOBs 10 Sept ?? 'PTSness and Disconnection',
 21 Feb ?? 'Choosing PE and Registration', about 'Control and Income']

Andrea Catt "The Scientologists knew that I had been involved in
professional malpractice and that I knew how money worked and how to get
money, how to move money around, and as the years progressed I got
dragged back more and more into the world of finance"
DM "But the Scientologists claim they put her into the job to give her 
a second chance"
MR "Someone comes into a church and says that they have reformed their
ways it would be uncharitable and not religious to say to them 'I'm
sorry, we don't believe anthing that you're saying. I'm sorry because of
your past we don't believe that you can change' " [wrinkles nose]
DM "According to Andrea by 1991 the Bournemouth mission was broke and
under enormous pressure from the cult's head office to sell more and
more Scientology courses"
[AC sorting through Scientology books]
AC "And as the pressure became greater and greater it became apparent to
all concerned that the only way to do things which were effectively more
malpractice"
[Shot through mission windows]
DM "In the Bournemouth mission every Thursday evening the executives met
to draw up a list of emotionally vulnerable recruits to be targeted that
week."

AC "There'd be some people - maybe their mother had just died and they
were very depressed or their girlfriend had just left them and those
would be prime, prime targets"

DM "Alex Bowernan was a prime target"
[shot of man cleaning garden pond]
DM "He is still trying to recover both financially and mentally. 
In 1995 he enrolled for a �125 Scientology counselling course"
AB "They told me that I was in a very depressed state of mind. I 
had to do something about it otherwise it was just downhill from there.
I had to put a stop to that"
[Cover of "The Scientologist's Guide to Dissemination" then overleaf
'Finding a Ruin']
AC " You talk to him about the things which are 'ruining his life'. You
basically make the person feel really, really bad about the condition
they're in. 
You take their problems and you magnify them. You look at how that's
going to affect them in the future and you get the person into a state
where they feel that their future is nothing unless they do something
and then you tell them that the only thing that they can do is
Scientology"
DM "Debbie Pine 'ruined' Alex Bowerman. In a set of gruelling interviews
she persuaded him to start the Bridge - a set of courses allegedly
designed  to 'clear' a person of his problems.
[Picture of 'The Bridge to Total Freedom' course charts.] 
AB "I was taken for re-interviews starting about ten o'clock at
night and finishing at about four in the morning and during this process
I was persuaded that this was the best course to take"
DM "The bridge costs more than £20,000. Alex was persuaded
to cash in an insurance policy. He was told it had to be done
immediately."
AB "I had spoken to the insurance company and I'd been told that there
was no way I could get it that week. It would take two or three weeks
minimum. So I went back to Scientology and they said 'Oh no, this is not
correct. We have done this before. You just say that this is your money,
you want it. You can get it"
DM "They were right. When Alex insisted he wanted the money quickly, the
insurance company paid up. The Senior Registrar - Stephanie Powell
[shot of Stephanie Powell through the mission window] 
went with him to collect the money. But even though Alex handed over
more than £23,000
[shot of Scientology receipts for Alex's payment - total £23,474.79]
she still wan't satisfied. Within days he'd been persuaded he needed
more training courses, tapes and books amounting  to a further £2,000"
AB "They played me for a puppet. They managed within the space of a week
to get £25,000 off me. That's more than my bank's ever managed to do"
DM "Alex's story is not unique. According to Andrea it happens all the
time"
AC "People were persuaded to re-mortgage their homes, sell their homes,
cash in the policies 
supposed to pay off their mortgages, borrow against pensions, sell
family jewels,
borrow from their families, sell their cars. Anything you can possibly
imagine that a person could do to raise money, people were persuaded to
do to pay into Scientology."
MR "You can talk to thousands of people and they will tell you that
nothing even remotely similar to that ever happened to them. It is just
a story that is made up now to sound sensational and give you some
fodder for your programme that will make the Church in some way look
bad."
DM "If targets had no ready cash or property to sell they'd be persuaded
to take out a loan. To make borrowing easier Registrars kept a handy
stock of forms from all the major lending financial institutions. They
then persuaded people to lie about the purpose of the loans. This
constitutes criminal deception"

SCAM 2: Deceiving the Bank

["Trust" voices]

AC "I knew full well, and so did all the other Registrars that if a
person filled a loan form in saying the money was for Scientology,
they'd get a very negative response so people were encouraged to say the
money was for a management training course, a computer, a car, a boat,
anything other than for Scientology.
Sometimes the person would fill the form in for themselves, sometimes
we'd fill it in with them, or for them. Then they'd sign it and it would
be submitted to the bank on a completely false basis."
     
Coopers and Lybrand accountant - Rick Helsby "If the Church of
Scientology itself assisted a member Scientologist in deceiving a bank
into advancing a loan which the bank otherwise would not or might not
have given then that is 
conspiracy to cheat and that is an extremely serious criminal offence"
DM "In 1993 a loan application purporting to be for a computer was
filled out by by a young recruit in the Bournemouth mission"

AC "The bank found out that he'd used the money for Scientology and
threatened to go to the police. The mission needed a scapegoat. 
I was the scapegoat. I was told to write a report of all the things that
had happened in the mission financially that were irregular."
[Shot of Statutory Declaration]
DM "Andrea says she was forced into signing a full confession taking all
the blame onto herself even though other people were also involved in
the financial scams.
MR "I can't give you any information whatsoever about that. I just 
don't. You know, you're talking to me and I have certain information
about things. 
But the Bournemouth Mission is a long, long, long way away from the
central activity of the Church of Scientology on an international
basis."
DM "Andrea was suspended for six months, but then she was reinstated.
Back in her old apartment it was business as usual. She was so
successful she even won awards from head office" [The "Gross Income Cup"
according to "The Guardian"]

SCAM 3: Fiddling the VAT

["Trust"]
DM "It wasn't just the banks that Scientology officials defrauded. In
the early '90s the cult's accountants realised the Church had failed to
register for Value-Added Tax and owed thousands of pounds to Customs and
Excise. This resulted in some creative book-keeping.
The scam was simple. The courses the cult sells are subject to VAT but
donations are not.
[shot of course leaflets]
RT "If there was a receipt for a course, say about �4,000, part of
that's your tax which has to be deducted. But then the receipt would be
changed, that receipt taken out and destroyed
and a new receipt made to make it into a donation."
RH "If the Church is deliberately falsifying its accounting records,
destroying receipts and the like
so that its trading income or income from services is understated to the
Customs and Excise then that is an extremely serious criminal offence.
It could be theft, false acccounting
and could be subject to many years of imprisonment"
MR "Now I will say this to you over and over and over. If someone was
doing something unethical that is not acceptavble to me, it is not
acceptable to anyone in the Church and we take responsibility for
straightening those things out"
["Trust" ad again]

DM [standing outside org] "Scientology staff, under constant pressure to
make money, live in fear of any of their recruits leaving the cult. A
recruit who drops out represents a drop in income. Even worse, he might
demand a refund. So officials need to keep all members under their
control and to do this the use an insidious technique. All recruits are
persuaded to divulge any dark secrets from their past for their own
good. 
Those secrets are recorded, and can, if neccessary be used against them
in the future.
Stuart Parkinson is one of the mission's most senior officials. One day
he took Alex Bowerman aside for a confidential chat, telling him that to
get over his problems he should admit to all his past wrongdoings"
[shot of Stuart P through window]
AB "Stuart asked for all sorts of information about my background.
Anything I was upset about or embarrassed about, that was holding me
back on the line. And I divulged all kinds of stuff that I would not
normally divulge to anybody, indeed stuff that I had not told anybody up
to that point. Having written them all down he read them and they went
into my file."
DM "That confession was to have serious consequences for Alex. After he
left the cult he was pestered for six months with letters and calls.
Then they discovered he'd instructed a solicitor to take action to get
his money back."
AB "Within the next couple of days we had a letter from the mission. 
It was not very pleasant"
DM "The letter referred to the secrets that Alex had divulged, 
suggesting 'the way out for you
[shot of letter]  
'is to confess everything you did to your wife and the Police 
and suffer the consequences' "
AB "It was basically telling me that they had stuff on me"
DM "Then Hodgkin and Co., Scientology solicitors passed on the letter to
the Legal Aid Board"
AB "I was devastated, just reading that letter I felt as if my whole
world had collapsed in one go"

DM "The fear that personal confidences might be divulged can ruin a life
or even end it"
[shot of gravestone]
"Last November, Richard from Christchurch [near Bournemouth]
[shot of smiling young man apparently celebrating birthday]
"was recruited into the Bournemouth mision. Within a few month he'd
borrowed £3,000 to pay for Scientology courses. Richard's sister
Jennifer describes what he was like before he met the Scientologists"
Jennifer "I would describe him as a very thoughtful, caring, intelligent
sensitive person.
He seemed to enjoy life, went out a lot with his friends."
DM "Richard underwent the Scientologists Purification Rundown, 
[shots of pill-guzzling, running and saunas, labelled as Reconstruction]
"Supposedly a form of detoxification, involving taking massive doses of
vitamins, then going for a vigorous half-hour run. They then sit in a
sauna for up to five hours a day.  
This punishing regime is repeated daily for at least two to three weeks.
People start to hallucinate, allegedly because their bodies are getting
rid of impurities, but in fact because of the damage being done to their
metabolism.
It was all too much for Richard, both physically and mentally.
Alan, one of Richard's workmates witnessed what happened when he decided
to quit Scientology,
Alan "When he initially wanted to leave they phoned him four times a
day, five times a day, up to an hour each time. And when he was on the
phone he was shaking, obviously frightened of something, but only the
Scientologists and Richard would know what that conversation was.
DM "Tony Clark, and other Bournemouth mission officials, wrote Richard
several letters"
[Shot of Tony Clark through window]
"Some of them distressed Richard so much that he tore them up on the
spot, others warned him of the consequences and asked him to come into
the mission"
[shots of letters]
"Andrea knows the routine. It's called 're-ruining'"
AC "He might be shown write-ups he'd done of past misdeeds that he'd
done and strongly reminded that those things still existed within his
emotional difficulties and he'd be brought to a very low emotional
point. All the influence the Church had prior would be really brought to
bear and the indoctrination would be hammered in harder"
DM "Richard's sister was on a visit home in July. She saw him on the
morning of his death"
Sister "Richard was anxious about the fact that he was wanting to leave
Scientology, and he was concerned that they were not letting him leave,
and that they were threatening to print personal information about him.
That is what he voiced to me"
DM "Later, Richard left home saying he was going to visit a friend. He
stopped off at a garage for petrol and cigarettes but he never arrived
at the friend's house."
[shot of Clifton Suspension Bridge]
DM "For several hours that night his movements are unaccounted for but 
much later that night he parked his car near the Clifton Suspension
Bridge in Bristol. At ten minutes to midnight he jumped to his death."
Sister "The family feel that Richard would be alive today if he had not
become involved with the Church of Scientology, and I feel they have a
responsibility for people that they are recruiting. If people want to
leave the organisation, then they need to give people that freedom to
leave without harassment and without threat"

MR "The fact that he committed suicide is a tragedy. But the fact that
people would then make an allegation that because he had at some point
an involvement in the Church of Scientology, that 
therefore the Church of Scientology is responsible - is reprehensible,
is disgusting."

DM "Even after Richard had died, the harrassment continued. Unaware of
the suicide, Tony Clark sent increasingly angry and threatening letters"
[Shot of letter 'I'm not the one who will miss out. In ten years time I
will not be thinking 
life is awful and want to kill myself.. so why not be bloody ethical
and get yourself sorted. See you soon. Best Regards TC']
DM {in front of org]"Ten British recruits to Scientology have committed
suicide in the past twelve years. But despite the disturbing evidence in
cases like Richard's Britain has been tolerant 
of the cult. It's a very different story in Europe.
There the authorities have taken strong action against Scientology
because of public outrage".
[coverage of French trial]

MR "The formation of the Christian religion  was fraught with
intolerance. 
Jesus Christ was tried by a court not unlike the court in France. He was
tried in a court and found guilty and he was put to death. Today they
don't do that anymore. Today we've got the media to do that to people"

[German and Spanish coverage]

[Pictures of Saint Hill]
DM "Back in Britain, in 1993 Roger Tuffin joined the Sea Organisation,
Scientology's elite corps"
[shot of 'Why continue to be part of a dying world? Join the Sea Org'
leaflet]  
RT "The only way that I could really get out would be for me to move up
by joining the Sea Org, which would be looked as a positive thing to do
in Scientology.
I could escape the finances and all the trouble that was there. I didn't
agree with it but I couldn't win a one-man battle on sorting it out."
DM " Roger was posted to Scientology's ship 'Freewinds' in the
Caribbean.
There he looked after the cult's war-chest, amassed from the huge
donations collected worldwide."

RT "It certainly ran into hundreds of millions of dollars. They'd make
at least half a million dollars per week worldwide"

[Trust]


AC "When I saw the 'trust' ad I was horrified. I've not been the most
trustworthy person 
in my life, and having made this programme I may get into serious
trouble.
I felt that people needed to know the truth. Scientology is not an 
organisation that you can trust"

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Man Gets Prison For Inventing His Own Church, And It's Not Scientology

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/ ... ientology/

Look what the've Done to my song Ma

Tony Blackckburn on radio Two today said and I quote...improvised..."Jazz and crime are not far apart"

and here we have the jive aces, scientology's jazz swingers...

Jive Aces tried to lure me into cult

Ex-member tells
of 'brainwashing' bid

Jiving 'em wild ... Aces on Saturday night's BGT

By RYAN SABEY

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A FORMER member of Britain’s Got Talent stars Jive Aces claims the band tried to “brainwash” him into becoming a Scientologist. Guitarist Johnny Gunner says the other members tried to control his behaviour after they joined the religion — and he felt relieved to leave the band.

They don't team up...they are part of the Sea Organization...that calls itself the eccleastical part of a church...Akuna Matarta

Jive Aces Team up with the Church of Scientology - Say No ...

 

 

 

Jaime de Wolfe and Paulette Cooper...you rock...who's the other guy?

 

 

from Tony Ortega's blog

Alex De Valera FOTF2012 • 5 hours ago

Well, the language you see in Scientology leaflets is not what Mark Twain, Melville or Hawthorne would have expected but I am not sure it is because Sea Org aliens (that's how British customs refer to foreigners).
Hubbard himself was a very poor writer because he was careless and never took the time to polish his syntax and to avoid repetitions like any other writer would do. People born into Scientology are cut away from civilisation. They know Manuelita Saenz existed because there is a reference to Simon Bolivar in "The Responsibility of Leaders" otherwise they would have never heard of them. I am sure the average young American Sea Org member doesn't know who Emily Dikinson or George Sand were.
Scientologists in general are sucked into ignorance because anything outside Hubbard or Scientology is not worthwhile. I re read recently 1984 and there is a conversation between Winston and one of his colleagues where they describe the process of gradually eliminating words and concepts. Newspeak was designed not to extend but to diminish the range of thought, and this purpose was indirectly assisted by cutting the choice of words down to a minimum. It reminded me of having to simplify texts in Scientology PR because of the possibility of misunderstood words, once I quoted Voltaire's Candide and my senior had concerns about the complexity of the language. (In theory any French High school student should be able to understand it).
I remember also a meeting in which an expert on a legal case was criticised for using the word "catharsis" this was in French of course, but it is just a Greek word which was used by a psychologist in the following sense:
2 (Merrian Webster's)
a : purification or purgation of the emotions (as pity and fear) primarily through art
b : a purification or purgation that brings about spiritual renewal or release from tension
The use of language in Scientology is far from ideal in the US, but in French, German or Italian that have more complex grammar the result is either appalling or utterly funny. Just for fun a quotation from "Much ado about nothing" on the arrest of two suspects...
DOGBERRY
One word, sir: our watch, sir, have indeed
comprehended two aspicious persons, and we would
have them this morning examined before your worship.
LEONATO
Take their examination yourself and bring it me: I
am now in great haste, as it may appear unto you.
DOGBERRY
It shall be suffigance.
LEONATO Drink some wine ere
you go: fare you well.

The Gospell According to Saint Bastard

An Interview with Saint Bastard by Evan Pretzer

21 Nov 2013, 2 comments

New video up...

TJ lost an eye due to lack of health and safety within the most ethical and eccleastical church on this planet, NO compensation, just a Sec Check...

Scientology Secrets - Security Check Children - Xs4all

The "Johannesburg Security Check" or "Joburg Confessional" is well-known among the critics of Scientology. Here it is as official HCO PL:

Martin Ottmann, Aug 15, 2014

Well, that must have been helpful, just about as helpful as giving out 'the way to happiness' booklets to people who have had their entire world ripped out from under them in Nepal...

Here's yet another press release from the cult:

Scientology Assists Bring Miraculous Relief to Victims of Nepal Earthquakes

In one of the legion of tent cities that ring Kathmandu in the aftermath of the Nepal earthquakes, a woman lies on a mat surrounded by members of her family. She is motionless. She doesn't turn her head. She seems almost dead — and very nearly was.

The woman was buried beneath rubble for 24 hours after her home crashed on top of her, caved in by the massive earthquake on April 25. It was as though every bit of her energy was sapped by that ordeal. She screamed for hour upon hour, desperate to be heard and rescued before it was too late.

The story of how she came back to life is a familiar one to those who have worked with Scientology Volunteer Ministers at a disaster site. Her seemingly miraculous recovery from her deep despondency came from a volunteer performing a Scientology assist.

Assists are very basic techniques that are much more powerful than they might initially appear. Anyone can learn to perform a simple assist in a matter of minutes, helping to address the emotional and spiritual factors that can precipitate and prolong trauma and injury.

Seeing the woman is such deep apathy, a Volunteer Minister began a "locational assist" — orienting her to the environment by simply having her look at her surroundings. Her family was amazed when, after only a few minutes, the woman stood up for the first time in a week, visibly improved in tone and activity. The Volunteer Minister then taught her family how to give her this kind of assist so they could continue to help her themselves.
Another group of Volunteer Ministers came across a 104-year-old man who had been injured during the first major earthquake. The shaker understandably had a profoundly traumatic effect on him. He was afraid to stand up and refused to see his friends or family.

However, after several assists, the centenarian revived, telling the volunteer, "I don't know what it is, but I feel good — I feel much better. That really helped me."

Continued here:
http://www.benzinga.com/pressreleas...miraculous-relief-to-victims-of-nepal-earthqu

How long until Volunteer Ministers show up in Nepal?

  

Martin Ottmann, Aug 15, 2014

 

Johannesburg Security Check | Why We Protest | Anonymous Act

But, hey not too crazy for Bill Clinton...

Can you imagine what this young boy is going through? I can, I have been there...

 

The Gospel According to Saint Bastard

I did decks work, I did an ethics program, I did lower conditions. My Comm-Ev was little more than a witch hunt as it submitted my “lack of progress” on a three page ethics program as evidence of “no ethics change” in its first submission when in fact I had completed all of the assignments and was working on the condition of Liability when I had first met with the Committee. My Comm-Ev was rejected by IJC four times before IJC canceled it. I was off scott-free, I had completed my lower conditions perfectly within policy, I was accepted back into the group by 90% of the staff at my org, even the CO, Supercargo, Chief Officer and LRH Comm approved my condition write-up and request to re join the group. However, the MAA petitioned RTC to have my comm-ev put back on the lines in violation of the double jeopardy clause (yes, it exists in SCN policy). My comm-ev bounced around for another month until IJC canceled it for the second time. At this point an unfortunate series of events took place. I was pulled in for a metered ethics interview. I answered the question “Have you knowingly violated policy.” with “I don't know.” Which was perfectly true and honest, I had been helping various people and divisions around the base on a variety of things and I was unfamiliar with all the policies governing those areas but there were somethings that I was requested or ordered to do that did not seem right but I did not have the time to look up the appropriate policies. The MAA's face became very grim and I knew that would be fuel to have me shit-canned... especially since there was an ethics mission in the org from CMO Int.

Twenty minutes after the ethics interview I was given another face ripping that I had grown so accustomed to over the years and twenty-four hours later I was being handed my RPF assignment. Eight hours after that, I was routing onto the RPF, determined to get a Board of Review. Certainly I couldn't be RPFed for something that I had been tried for twice. My first Board of Review canceled my RPF assignment, but since the Board was convened locally and not by an authority higher than CMO Int, it was deemed invalid. I then petitioned for a Board of Review from CMO Int, which upheld my assignment...as did the Board convened by RTC. This is all regardless of blatant violations of LRH justice policy.

I spent a good deal of time on the RPF, more time than I had spent in the Sea Org proper. I was injured several times during the course of my work. I received no less than one-hundred and some-odd stitches from various accidents. I had second degree burns, I lost use of a body part that while I received medical attention for and a good deal of auditing for, I have yet to receive and actual compensation for. I lived through the schedule and bore the lack of contact with the outside world. I saw some of the subtle world social changes trickle in via new RPFers and when Sea Org crew took pity and made sure there was a radio within earshot. I was an MAA, an Auditor, a PC a construction worker and I was on the RPFs RPF. I saw people come and go. I saw people get into serious deep shit for figuring out ways to meet in private and have hot sweaty sex. I saw people graduate, but more often, I saw people leave. I was twinned with some very interesting characters, some of which had bigger problems than just being on the RPF. I saw people seriously lose their shit and go raving motherfucking batshit crazy. I had one twin who wanted to marry me after the RPF and another who thought I was her husband in another life. I had one twin who was gay and thought I was too... with subsequent discomfort. I had a twin that nobody wanted to help because “she was a slut” (I thought she was one of the most normal people there). I saw a lot of strange and fucked up shit on the RPF. I did a lot of strange and fucked up shit on the RPF. 

Scientology...here's a touch assist for you...feel my finger...

Clearwater Known as the First Scientology City in the World

Church of Scientology works behind the scenes against Clearwater Marine Aquarium

The Unbreakable Miss Lovely Q&A with Paulette Cooper and Tony Ortega.

 Well Worth Watching!

The Met Files: how Police kept dossiers on TV sci-fi shows

This was in the Times today...page 22...May 18th

by Tom Whipple...

The Metropilitan Police kept dossiers on the X-Files and Star Trek, fearing that the telivision series could cause riots and mass suicide newley released documents have revealed.

In particular, Scotland Yard worried that the dramas could fuel a rise of of civil disorder and apocalytic cults that would reach a peak around the millennium and result in an "act of extreme violence".

According to the 1997 dossier UFO New Religious Movements and the Millemium: "Fuel is added to the fire by telivision dramas and feature films mostly produced in America. These draw together the various strands of religion UFOs, conspiracies and mystic events and put them in an entertaining storyline.

It is not being suggested that the production companies are intentionally atempting to foment trouble.However, producers of programmes including The X Files, Millenium, Dark Skies and Star Trek, know what psychological buttons to press to excite interest in their products.

"Obviously this is not sinistair in itself. What
 is of concern is the devotion certain groups and individuals ascribe to the contents of these programmes.

Scotland Yard was especially concerned that as the millenium approached Britain might produce it's own version of Heavens Gate, an American group whose Philosophy mixed Christianity with science fiction. In 1997, 39 of it's members committed suicide in the belief that they would be transported to an alien spacecraft that was following the comet Hale_ Bopp

"This group like many others drew inspiration from science fiction," said the report, which was obtained under a freedom of information request by David Clarke, author of the book How UFOs conquered the world The History of a Modern Myth. "Indeed much of their free time was given to viewing Star Trek and The X Files and then seriously debating which series is superior. The problem is that growing members are not trating this as entertainment and finding it immpossible to divorce fantasy from reality.

The concern was not so much tht this might lead to mass suicide, but that such an outcome could actually be best case scenario..

" The worring aspect is that some elements, as in the case of Heavens Gate, take extreme measures.. On that occasion the group imploded. We can not be certain that other groups in the future will take such 'limited' action.

"Although an American phenonemon, it is being imported in to the UK.

It easy to  dismiss these beliefs as deluded and of no consequence, but the Heaven's Gate  deaths show these beliefs can and do influence others.

"It does not matter that we do not believe," the report concluded before adding in a line that could easily have been scripted for Dana Scully, The X Files heroine. "What really matters is they do".

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1. Sharone Stainforth (58)...I am banned...they would just like you to think I am not, I most certainly am banned. It's called black ops...the trouble is if they took me into a court of law, they would be well and truly fucked...because I have backup information.

All the so called experts try and tell me' well there's only 40,000 world wide...please don't mock. If there was only 1,000 people left in scientology...half are in the government, a quarter of that is in the National Health service and the other quarter are in Intelligence...that is more than enough to cause a storm...worldwide. Accordingly there are owing to the British concenciss only 2,000+ scientologists in the United Kingdom, so double that up,it's still an awful lot of people in the right places causing havok.

There is an awful lot more I could say...but why bother...it is falling on deaf ears.

A Little bit Uncomfortable?

Hana Whitfield Interview on L Ron Hubbards early abuses

but I have a big problem with it, she will not talk about the Commodores Messengers. She was privy to this. Her friend was Yvonne Gillham. Can't talk about locking one of her own children in the hold...can't deal with that...hey! But, we will deflect...that's a nice word isn't it...deflect! LRH wanted sexual relationships with Yvonne Gillam/Jenzsch...that changes everything doesn't it?And I don't have to say I Locked Yvonne's daughter in the hold of the Apollo, and Yvonne's daughter would not want you too, either. It would give a devastating account of LRH, wouldn't it?

When I first read about you on line I thought you were good,my opinion has sorely changed over time, after all you were the jailor of an 11 year old and 12 year old and whilst she may be brainwashed, I am not!

From the McClaughry's Blog

Don Alverzo and Other Scientology Operatives in Perspective

Found – 1968 Picture of Jeffrey K. Marino, Army Pilot

Paulette Cooper...

The Scandal of Scientology - Paulette Cooper.com

Evil, Brainwashing...CULT

I went to London today, never went near a scientology building and never saw any scientologists that I know of...

Strange thing, something I have never seen in Oxford Street before...JWs (Jehova Wittnesses) were at every underground entrance with copies of The Watch Tower and other promotional material...just an observation...judgement day must be getting ever closer...

Along one side of the road was a sight I personally have never seen...about 8-9 young men, one holding a placard that said "Death to America" and underneath "as told by God". I was quite startled by this, another of these men held another poster which had the 12 commandments by the God of Islam. I wondered where the Police were? I found the whole thing very disturbing...some men were handing out leaflets about Islam...I only knew this, as the word 'Islam' was in much larger letters on the leaflets and I could see this as I passed by.

Med boats' secret cargo - jihadis bound for Britain: ISIS terrorists are being smuggled into Europe by posing as refugees, intelligence analysts fear

My main thoughts on this were...actually still are...how can someone have posters up like this in a  over crowded main city shopping street in London today, with all the threat of terrorism in the UK and America? And what about Charlie Hebdo? I found it both bizarre and extremely intimidating.

When I think of all the protests that were held in Tottenham Court Road against the 'church' of scientology and the amount of Police presence because the 'church' of scientology felt intimidated by the annonymous group and the word 'CULT' it actually beggars belief. For anyone that doesn't know, the human traffic flow on Tottenham Court Road compared to Oxford Street is insignificant...Oxford Street has shoppers in their thousands...Where were the Police?

One young man 'Epic Nose Guy' was arrested because he had the word 'CULT' on his picket sign, it was seen as derogatory...he did get off, but what a waste of Police time.

Epic Nose Guy, over 2yrs on, still used in newsmedia civil liberty arguments

The Epic Nose Guy incident from 2008 gets a mention in this article on scarificing liberties for "the war on terror"

Sacrificing our liberties won't win the war against terror
Use the justice system against terror suspects
– don't corrupt it by criminalising us all, argues Dominic Raab
The Telegraph (UK) 25th Oct 2010
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...iberties-wont-win-the-war-against-terror.html
the relevant snippet....

[...]
The second principle requires demarcating a clearer line between what a free society must tolerate, and what it should punish. We have to put up with – or rebut – views we find offensive, but not those instigating violence. In 2008, a
15- year-old boy was threatened with prosecution for calling Scientology a "cult", yet Abu Hamza was left free to preach violent extremism for years. We should protect free speech by repealing offences that stifle legitimate debate – like "glorification" of terrorism and religious hatred – but take a "zero-tolerance" approach to extremists inciting violence.

[...]

Prretty amazing that this incident is still being used by newsmedia in civil liberty arguments as a principle for doing the right thing. Nose Guy was indeed epic.



Some previous ENG thread history:
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/showthread.php?t=15383
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/showthread.php?t=32179


His face is nose. His epic is epic.

Epic Nose Guy, over 2yrs on, still used in newsmedia civil libert

 

Another young annonymous guy was told by a Police Officer in East Grinstead to remove his sign or face arrest, this was in front of me...

'Brainwashing and Evil'

Whilst protesting in Brighton there was a certain chicken that the Police were interested in...

On the day this Police Officer was asking the anons who they were, I approached him and said do you want to know who I am...he said "we know all about you..."

So, you tell me how the hell someone can stand in one of the busiest shopping streets in London with a placard that says "Death to America"?????

I did see a Police car crawling along Oxford Street about an hour later heading in that direction...lets hope they did something about it...apparently 'you can do something about it'...it's just most of the time it falls on deaf ears...

The Dangerous New Cult of Scientology 1969 from Parents magazine...

Whilst searching for something tonight...I happened upon this...

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The Dangerous New Cult of Scientology.

The Dangerous New Cult of Scientology. From Parents Magazine - 1 June 1969 - Authors: Arlene Eisenberg and Howard Eisenberg.

http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/l...m.php?iid=1322

PERHAPS the most dangerous aspect of scientology processing is its effect on children. To erase painful engrams, scientologists maintain that children should be processed early in life—at five or even younger. There are other requirements for rearing youngsters. For example, "Grandparents should not be permitted into the home of their grandchildren until they have learned to behave themselves dianetically. . . ."

Although other educational approaches are not forbidden, they are certainly challenged. "No words bitter enough or strong enough," writes Hubbard, who dropped out of George Washington University before his junior year, "could be leveled at authoritarian educational systems . . ." He ends, however, on a note of hope: "Fortunately, a college education can be picked out of a pre-clear . . . in ten or fifteen hours."

Although Hubbard promises a "well, a happy, a careful, a beautiful, an intelligent child" through scientology, reports of some children reared his way indicate that his system is far from perfect. Two lads at Saint Hill for advanced auditing were virtual terrors, constantly battling with each other or against others. "The older boy was the youngest clear at that time," reports an observer. "When his mother tried to assert proper parental control, he screamed that she was interfering with his Total Freedom. He and his brother, like two throwbacks to the Hitler Jugend, promptly reported her to the Ethics Officer, and she was taken away for special auditing and interrogation, Gestapo-style.''

Scientology claims tremendous growth during the past several years, but judging by the number of complaints pending against it, there is some doubt about its holding power. Currently, it may be the most investigated organization in the world. In England, the Health Minister declares "its authoritarian principles and practices are a potential menace to the personality of those so deluded as to become followers." In Victoria, Australia, the government banned scientology as an "organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy."

In the United States, the Justice Department, on behalf of the Internal Revenue Service, has won a case against scientology (which is, of course, appealing the decision in an effort to regain tax exempt status). The trial commissioner of the U.S. Court of Claims refused to order tax exemption for scientology because "by advertising and promoting its processing and training services in the same manner as would a commercial enterprise . . . plaintiff derived over 90 per cent of its income from the sale of these services." A star witness against scientology was the son of the founder, L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., who testified that scientology was more interested in saving money than souls.

Saint Hill has been known to take in as much as $150,000 in fees in one week. One man who went there for power-processing was checked out in 20 minutes instead of the 50 hours he had expected. He didn't know whether to be happy or heartbroken. His fee for the course was $1,200 in advance. He had, therefore, paid for his processing at the fantastic rate of $60 per minute.

Money, however, may not be Hubbard's only driving force these days. "There is," says an ex-scientologist, a very scary atmosphere of complete control there under the surface at Saint Hill. You hear rumors of military-like activities, and talk of Ron's three ships—combination yachts and training vessels for his Sea Org—and the uniforms his advanced students wear aboard them."

A recent mailing from Hubbard reinforces this judgment, claiming that, "L. Ron Hubbard, flanked by the powerful, highly-trained O.T.'s of the Sea Org, has forged through gigantic barriers in 1968—has identified the true enemy of Mankind on this planet." It goes on to say that Hubbard will soon compare the 1968 accomplishments of the U.S., the USSR, and the U.K. with the achievements of scientology in 1968.

Though it may seem ridiculous to think that Hubbard really wants to control our planet, as former associates have speculated, he does use characteristic phrases of the demagogue, the would-be dictator. Consider this statement: "Man is sick and nations have gone mad . . . We are the only group on earth that does have a workable solution . . . No threat of ridicule or punishment must be let stand in our way!" These are the tones we associate with the fanatic, the paranoid megalomaniac. It's worth noting that Hubbard's former wife, Sara Northrup Hubbard, declared in a statement quoted by the United Press on April 24, 1951 that "competent medical advisers" had pronounced her husband "hopelessly insane."

It is to be noted that at the same time as this article was published I just parted company with this "hopelessly insane" man,but not however, his insanity.

I left the Apollo June 1st 1969 in Lisbon, Portugal and headed for Denmark.

Hell aboard the Apollo 1968

From the Scientology Bollocks website

May

14

PRINCE CHARLES LINKED TO SCIENTOLOGY'S 'CRIMINON' (BANG GOES HIS LAST CHANCE OF EVER BEING KING, ED)... TRAVOLTA CAN'T BE BOTHERED WITH HIS WIGS ANYMORE... OSA TROLLS AT IT AGAIN

The Church of Scientology’s prisoner program – headed up by Tom Cruise‘s brother-in-law – claims that it has received donations from Prince Charles.

Criminon, which runs controversial rehabilitation courses for offenders throughout the world, says that the Prince of Wales has made at least one donation in the last two years.

It boasts on its website: “We’re pleased to announce that we have received a further donation from His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall.”

PHOTOS: Sci-Fi Fallout! 13 Scientology Secrets Exposed In Film ‘Going Clear’

Cruise, 52, and Charles have known each other for decades . The Hollywood actor was close to his late wife Diana and even attended her funeral ceremony at Westminster Abbey in 1997.

http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.nz/2015/05/tiny-tommy-needs-wife-no4-to-make-look.html
May

8

TINY TOMMY NEEDS A WIFE No4 TO MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A NORM.... THE GOING CLEAR JUGGERNAUGHT KEEPS ON ROLLING ALONG...HIGH RANKING SCIENTOLOGY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER CALLS FOR MISCAVIGE RESIGNATION

WHO are YOU?

The Voice of Bart Simpson

I know it's old information but I never let an opportunity pass by to inform newbies of this. Steve Brackett the man holding hands with Nancy in this photo was cleared of more money than he could afford. Nancy helped facilitate this transfer of his funds to Scientology. Steve then jumped off the Bixby bridge to his death.

Not Nancy, Saturday at 5:25 PM

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Hey, here's a little something for you...Why We Protest...is run by a bunch of people even I don't know...some of them I do...but it is few... in the grand scheme of things...Who is Bart Simpson...it's a voice over...Nancy Cartwright...a woman...a scientologist and she thinks she is a god...

I know it's old information but I never let an opportunity pass by to inform newbies of this. Steve Brackett the man holding hands with Nancy in this photo was cleared of more money than he could afford. Nancy helped facilitate this transfer of his funds to Scientology. Steve then jumped off the Bixby bridge to his death.

Not Nancy, Saturday at 5:25 PM

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