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Gorman: I was an OSA Volunteer
Arnie: What sorts of things would you be called upon to do?
Gorman: To confront and deal with Sps, to handle Sps.
Arnie: When did you do this?
Gorman: 1990 through the beginning of 2000
Arnie: Were there any specific names you called upon to deal with?
Gorman: Kristi Wachter who runs Scientology-lies.com in San Francisco and Realpeach in Oakland California.
Arnie: Describe what you did to handle Kristi Wachter
Gorman: I went to her home, to pass out flyers and give them to all
her neighbors, so when she came home and came outside she would see her
face everywhere saying she was a bigot. When I would see a crowd of
people nearby, I would say things like:
"you are psychotic", "You came out of an institution", "you like to fuck little cats", "See you later Psycho" to get her angry,
so she would look crazy to others. "I know you don't like men"
Arnie: Describe what you did to handle Peaches
I would talk in a very smart ass voice, tell her she was ugly and old, tell me your crimes peaches, I said:
"You
are psychotic" "you are crazy" "no one cares about you" "the world
would be better without you on it" "You are a bitch" "You are a bigot"
"I'm never going to leave until you stop picketing my church" "I'm
going to let all your neighbors know what a psychopath you are"
Arnie: Who told you to do and say these things and what did they direct you to say and do?
In my presence, Scientology's Director of Special Affairs (DSA) of
the Office of Special Affairs (OSA) for San Francisco, Church of
Scientology who is
Jeff Quiros, stated the following:
"Under oath doesn't mean shit."
Arnie: Did he say this often?
Mr. Gorman: He said this at least ten times.
Arnie: what else did he say?
Mr. Gorman: Jeff Quiros said that
"The court system is just a bunch of WOGs and they are suppressive and that the US government is suppressive"
"The police dept., the FBI and the court system are all suppressive,
they are all a bunch of morons and they are down stats and can't get
real jobs. The court system is designed to take any bad down stat (bad
person) so they can torpedo an up stat (good person) and bring them
down.
The Police are a bunch of crooks and especially the FBI. The FBI is the number one terrorist group in the United States"
And then he showed me a written green on white policy by Hubbard that stated this.
Arnie: Did he direct the picketing?
He directed our conduct, yet stressed this: "You cannot tell them I
had any involvement, I did not tell you to do any of this, and you
don't even know me" He would remind me of this EVERY time we would
picket Kristi or Peaches. Jeff Quiros said, "I could get sued for this.
The church would get in a lot of trouble and it would be all your
fault"
Arnie: What did he tell you to do or say??
Mr. Gorman:
To whisper very mean things into the ear of the person
I was picketing whenever there were a group of people coming so that
she would react badly in front of the people and look like a
psycho-path. He told me to say specifically, "Kristi, you like to fuck
little cats" "you practice bestiality" and then we both started
laughing.. and to call her "psycho", because we knew this would get her
upset.
Jeff Quiros also told me; "You can do anything to an SP and not get
into trouble for it" "A suppressive group is made up of a bunch of
SP's." He said "Get little kids around the neighborhood to pop the
lady's tires, ruin her plants and break some windows in her house, give
them candy for doing these deeds."
He said: "When the police finally arrive from the picketing, make them
believe that we are completely normal people and the people we are
picketing are psychotic and paranoid. Be friendly with the police and
become their friends, and make them like you.
Arnie: What effect did your efforts have upon the police?
Mr. Gorman: Based on Jeff Quiros instruction to me, I was not just
friendly with the police, but I became their friends. I would tell the
police that Kristi was a psycho, tell them that she pickets our church.
After a while, the police stopped responding to Kristi and Peach's
telephone calls, when Scientology would harass her at home. But Peaches
would call the police every time, after a while the police stopped
coming.
Jeff Quiros said: "After 6 times the police come to that location in
one week, the police will stop coming because they will believe the
person calling them is psychotic and paranoid. He told me if it ever
comes to a time when we all have to go to court, not to worry about it
because the Scientology lawyers are great and they will tell us how to
act and behave and to just do exactly what they say. Lying under Oath
is a normal thing for Scientologists because it's the greatest good for
the greatest number of dynamics, and we are doing nothing wrong by
changing the story since they are suppressive (bad) people and
Scientologists are here to save the planet from those people. Then he
said "SP's and suppressive groups hate all organizations that fix
peoples lives and help people, and they want to ruin those people and
organizations utterly. Scientology is the only organization that does
this on the planet"
Mr. Gorman: We became their 'friends'; they started to believe that she was 'crazy'
Arnie: Did the police continue to respond?
Mr. Gorman: After they came to Peaches Pook's home about ten times the police stopped coming.
Arnie: So, would it be fair to say, that this is the one part of scientology that really works?
Mr. Gorman: Yes, it is the only part. He was making fun of Judges in
general saying they look like Penguins and how they think they are all
mighty and great. He said Judges do their jobs as well as nuns do, and
he began to laugh, the joke was, he said that there is no God and so
those people serving God don't do anything anyway.
It was common knowledge that SP's (Suppressive persons, enemies of
scientology) are subject to being tricked, lied to, sued, or destroyed -
they have no regard for people outside of Scientology and they believe
they can do anything they want to SP's and not get punished for it
because they believe that Scientologists are above the law.
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